[ILLUSION] Koikatu! - Card Sharing Request Thread 2.0 (Restart)

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I originally intended to just answer your questions but I ended up writing a whole ass guide explaining how I approach making character cards so I'll briefly address your first question here and you can read the guide below for more in-depth explanations.

By copying the slider values of the reference cards into my edited one, for example, I like the eyes of card A, and the head shape of card B, so I copy the slider values of the eyes of card A and the slider values of the head of card B and put them into one. The result won't look good if you blindly copy the sliders however, you'll inevitable have to make adjustments from observation and that's where you make use of your other references. A good example of this is my version B of the Mekami Shifty card, I copied the values of the head shape from Upiuu's Mast card because I felt like it resembled the source material very closely, and once I did that I adjusted everything else accordingly.

An important lesson you learn when studying figure drawing is to work from the biggest shapes down to the smallest, starting with the general shape of the head before moving on to the features of the face within it.

In Koikatsu this means starting with the head scale X, Y, and Z sliders, then continuing with the ears, jaw and cheeks sliders, I know that the sheer amount of sliders can be daunting but keep in mind that you can always go back and fine tune them, at this point of the process you're not supposed to be concerned with the details of the face, we're trying to get a satisfying head shape to work on as a foundation, think of it as sculpting a head with clay, you don't start with the smaller features of the face like the eyes or the nose.
Since your references are also 3d models this part shouldn't be that complicated, just make sure to angle the head of your model to match the same angles from your references and switch between them from time to time to get as close as possible. If you have a card that has a similar shape of the head you can copy the slider values from it to save yourself some time and work from there, the card doesn't have to be exactly the same as the one you are trying to match, it could even be from a completely different character as long as it has a head shape that you feel can help you get closer to the final result, otherwise you can make the head from scratch by observation, just take your time and work on the sliders one by one.

Once you're satisfied with the head shape you should start laying out the face by roughly measuring where each feature sits in the model you're trying to match, the sliders I move at this point are eye, eyebrow, nose, and mouth vertical position, as well as eye height, width, and spacing, don't concern yourself with the shape or details of the features just yet, we are laying out where each feature sits, not their specific form. Having basic anatomical knowledge helps; the eyes sit roughly at the middle point between the top of the head and the tip of the chin and are about one eye apart in width, the base of the nose sits at the middle point from the tip of the chin and the center line of the eyes, etc. I'm aware that waifus do not look like real humans most of the time but in my opinion these are still good guidelines if you find yourself having trouble placing the features of the face, and if you look at my Chun-Li card and P.Jackson's Mai these rules still apply despite how stylistically different they are from real life.


From Andrew Loomis' Drawing the Head and Hands

Lastly we concern ourselves with the features of the face as well as other character specific details, I usually start with the easier ones like mouth width and angle, eyebrow shape and spacing, and leave the eyes for last since they tend be the trickiest to get right, first with the eye rotation slider to get a basic idea of the shape, then the eye lid sliders, inner and outer eye corner height sliders and finally the upper and lower eyelash sliders, I personally don't change the eyeball scale sliders at all since I find the previous options robust enough to get the desired shape but feel free to mess around with them if you wish, additionally don't forget to play around with the iris shape and vertical position sliders as well, since a slight adjustment of the iris can make or break the appearance of the eye from my experience. Regarding character specific details, these are the unique facial features of the character you're trying to match, for example, going back to my Chun-Li card, it was important to get the eyebrows and red makeup right since these are iconic details of the character to me, this just comes down to looking at the list of face feature types in your game and find the ones that look the closest to your reference (or you could draw them in photoshop or any other raster graphics software but this guide is already long enough so I won't cover material editor and overlay stuff here lol). Ask yourself what are the details of the card you're trying to match that stand out the most, it could be the makeup, eye color, eyebrow shape, a mole, etc.


Chun-Li 3rd Strike portrait on the left, my card on the right

To summarize, start with the largest shapes first (the shape of the head, jaw, and chin),then lay out where each feature of the face sits inside the head by measuring your reference (eye, mouth, and nose vertical position and spacing),lastly work on the smallest details like eye and iris shapes and don't forget to get the character defining features like makeup or eye color. If you give yourself some structure in your work process you won't get overwhelmed by the vast sea of sliders that the character maker has.

Some closing thoughts
From personal experience it's very easy to get tunnel vision and get frustrated from not getting a specific detail right, I've read of artists dealing with this by looking at their work through a mirror, flipping their canvas upside down or looking at their work from a really far away distance, I find these pretty useful when I'm stuck but if they don't work for you just take a small break and you'll be just fine.
I also recommend saving your character multiple times as you work on it because if you feel like you messed something up and don't remember which sliders you moved you can always go back to a previous version of your character and work from there, for example I saved the Mekami Shifty card I posted like 7 times, each with a slightly different face, because I couldn't decide which one to keep working on, and even after I posted it I made another version lol, make as many copies as you can and don't be afraid to mess around with them.

I hope this guide helps you or anyone else trying to make character cards, thanks for reading till the end.



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Thank you so much for your reply man!!! 😍 I really honor those who genuinely share knowledge, and you went out of your way to make a lengthy response to reply to my request. This is something I'll be keep this in a word doc to look back on. Really looking forward to the stuff you post in the future bro. Keeping being you Chief! 🤝​
 
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これはエンコードされたリンクです。これを解読するにはこちらを使用してください.
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これを解読するには、リンク内のコードを3回入力してください。
 
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Thank you so much for your reply man!!! 😍 I really honor those who genuinely share knowledge, and you went out of your way to make a lengthy response to reply to my request. This is something I'll be keep this in a word doc to look back on. Really looking forward to the stuff you post in the future bro. Keeping being you Chief! 🤝​
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My pleasure
Good luck with the characters you're working on
 
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lor mod pass 2025 are MARKED.
unless the leaker want to get blacklisted or banned from his patreon, there will be no leaked mods from him anytime soon especially with his new rule he implemented.
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Hi everyone, i have a question: Is there a way to see which mods are being used in a scene or a card? Thanks.
i used KKmanager, it show what plugin and mod that im missing although it cant detect an outdated mod, for example if u have older mod but the card need a newer version of, KKmanager wont tell u if u need the newer version of the mod.
 
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This will be my second upload
And my friends who ask me if I have a scene, I'm sorry I couldn't answer every single time. If there's no reply, please think that this friend doesn't have one

It's his 45th and 46th scenes that start with an L and end with an L


Found this way too late. Can someone reupload this or send a link to me via DM if you don't want the link to be public anymore?
 
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Can someone share this cards, please? 🥺🙏
P.s.: I am deleting this message and posting it again so as not to litter the forum.



 
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Guys im planning support Lor for some new WW cards, but the rules are so confusing.
Seems i need to pay $15 for 3 months to gain his trust and then in the 4th month i can get the new card?
Honestly thats so weird, am i get the rules wrong?
Honestly i smell a potential scam... If they suddenly changed their "rules", report their account ASAP.
 
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Has anyone have this card from unagi4545?
I'll stop you right there, Unagi marks his cards. The only way you're getting this is buying it, waiting for some one to retire, or the tried and true method of HACKERMAN but overall you're not gonna see this at least a year...

EDIT: I fucked up spelling the word true...
 
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My upiuu collection (sorry for mega everything else was being a bitch):

I still want her:
reupload please?
 
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the last Lor card i can find, good luck guys
 
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Hi everyone, i have a question: Is there a way to see which mods are being used in a scene or a card? Thanks.
Card yes, you can check the plugins and mods required in KKManager.
Scenes sadly have to be loaded in the studio and just check the errors.
 
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I'll stop you right there, Unagi marks his cards. The only way you're getting this is buying it, waiting for some one to retire, or the tried and true method of HACKERMAN but overall you're not gonna see this at least a year...

EDIT: I fucked up spelling the word true...
Oh.. i'm so sorry idk about that, i just can't hold when i see one of my fav chara list already been made😅

I will delete my post, thanks for the info
 
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For the lazy people like me xd

This is from Kemono
And yes, it is stolen
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Sankuku​

-Koko D. Nuts​

-Demenishki​

Hey can you pls repost the Deme card?
 
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Hi, I just browse the rule34video site and saw this koikatsu scene compilation/hmv by a certain dude who didn't give any sauce
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Anyone have idea whose scene these are? I only know the first one looked like something Hongcha would made, but ofc not or am I blind?
 

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