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Well, I won't lie, I'm registered on this lovely forum and on another one, f95, although my activity there has been zero. I recently logged into that forum's Discord and found a considerable number of people complaining that their card-sharing thread was blocked with limited access (I think an administrator should give you access, but honestly, I have no idea). I wanted to know if any of you really know the situation or the reason.

I'm saying this because I have a friend who was active there and has now left the community because the previous thread was closed and the current one has no access.

Could this have been caused by some kind of "attack" or a disproportionate increase in people who simply create an account, order the cards, and then disappear for months only to return and do the same thing? This is just my intuition, but I'd prefer if someone with more information would let me know and free me from my ignorance.

Again, I apologize if it's forbidden to talk about another forum here.
Have a nice day.

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Well, I won't lie, I'm registered on this lovely forum and on another one, f95, although my activity there has been zero. I recently logged into that forum's Discord and found a considerable number of people complaining that their card-sharing thread was blocked with limited access (I think an administrator should give you access, but honestly, I have no idea). I wanted to know if any of you really know the situation or the reason.

I'm saying this because I have a friend who was active there and has now left the community because the previous thread was closed and the current one has no access.

Could this have been caused by some kind of "attack" or a disproportionate increase in people who simply create an account, order the cards, and then disappear for months only to return and do the same thing? This is just my intuition, but I'd prefer if someone with more information would let me know and free me from my ignorance.

Again, I apologize if it's forbidden to talk about another forum here.
Have a nice day.

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long story short: A bunch of idiots were breaking the rules all the time despite the warnings (A LOT of warnings), which made moderation upset and it ended closing and locking the thread away
 
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long story short: A bunch of idiots were breaking the rules all the time despite the warnings (A LOT of warnings), which made moderation upset and it ended closing and locking the thread away
It's totally understandable. Sometimes people don't measure their behavior, although when dealing with idiots, I highly doubt they'd even consider consequences like the ones that ended up happening.

I couldn't say "a real shame" because I never got to share interactions with the people on that forum, but I find it easy to empathize with my friend and the disappointment that ultimately led him to abandon everything related to Koikatsu.

I hope this kind of thing doesn't happen here, because little by little I've started to appreciate several users.

Well, I'll get to the point so I don't bore you.

Thank you very much. Seriously, I appreciate your response, even if it's a summary; you've made it clearer for me, my friend.
 
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It's totally understandable. Sometimes people don't measure their behavior, although when dealing with idiots, I highly doubt they'd even consider consequences like the ones that ended up happening.

I couldn't say "a real shame" because I never got to share interactions with the people on that forum, but I find it easy to empathize with my friend and the disappointment that ultimately led him to abandon everything related to Koikatsu.

I hope this kind of thing doesn't happen here, because little by little I've started to appreciate several users.

Well, I'll get to the point so I don't bore you.

Thank you very much. Seriously, I appreciate your response, even if it's a summary; you've made it clearer for me, my friend.
You're welcome, but I mean, that's literally what happened: A bunch of idiots (Who were suspiciously new members) broke the rules by sharing lolis and forbidden stuff, then moderation got angry and warned them, then they kept going and going until... surprise! The thread ends up closed and locked forever. Then we all migrated to the now defunct "Isekai cards" that was made by one of those mods, and finally we all ended up here. It's that simple, sadly.
 
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You're welcome, but I mean, that's literally what happened: A bunch of idiots (Who were suspiciously new members) broke the rules by sharing lolis and forbidden stuff, then moderation got angry and warned them, then they kept going and going until... surprise! The thread ends up closed and locked forever. Then we all migrated to the now defunct "Isekai cards" that was made by one of those mods, and finally we all ended up here. It's that simple, sadly.
Damn, I hope there's a firm grip here on those people who sometimes seem like bots, following a single pattern of behavior that only complicates things and ruins the pleasant atmosphere the forum seeks.

It's probably out of habit, but I let my colleague know about this forum, and although I almost got him to change his mind, it seems he doesn't because he wants to continue or reply to that closed f59 thread; it has him mentally blocked from other options.

Although, I'd also like to clarify that some of the letters I share that are paywalled are provided to me by him from time to time.
 
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Well, I won't lie, I'm registered on this lovely forum and on another one, f95, although my activity there has been zero. I recently logged into that forum's Discord and found a considerable number of people complaining that their card-sharing thread was blocked with limited access (I think an administrator should give you access, but honestly, I have no idea). I wanted to know if any of you really know the situation or the reason.

I'm saying this because I have a friend who was active there and has now left the community because the previous thread was closed and the current one has no access.

Could this have been caused by some kind of "attack" or a disproportionate increase in people who simply create an account, order the cards, and then disappear for months only to return and do the same thing? This is just my intuition, but I'd prefer if someone with more information would let me know and free me from my ignorance.

Again, I apologize if it's forbidden to talk about another forum here.
Have a nice day.

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For what I can tell, there was a ongoing flame war on that thread forum between the leakers and the paywallers for several months before it was closed, guys like Gin26, Earthship, Unagi and several others were involved, along with their simps, snitches and some trolls.
At first, it was just random arguments and stirring shit in the thread, which was easily resolved by deleting the messages and banning some of the most annoying users, but it was still bothersome for the moderators to deal with, especially as the frequency went from monthly to weekly. But then paywallers started doing more troublesome things, like filling the thread with loli and guro hentai instead of cards and scenes, and if you know the rules there, you know you can't share that material in the open like that, so the moderators, already tired of dealing with the daily nonsense, decided to close the thread to not affect the rest of the forum.
 
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For what I can tell, there was a ongoing flame war on that thread forum between the leakers and the paywallers for several months before it was closed, guys like Gin26, Earthship, Unagi and several others were involved, along with their simps, snitches and some trolls.
At first, it was just random arguments and stirring shit in the thread, which was easily resolved by deleting the messages and banning some of the most annoying users, but it was still bothersome for the moderators to deal with, especially as the frequency went from monthly to weekly. But then paywallers started doing more troublesome things, like filling the thread with loli and guro hentai instead of cards and scenes, and if you know the rules there, you know you can't share that material in the open like that, so the moderators, already tired of dealing with the daily nonsense, decided to close the thread to not affect the rest of the forum.
Also they shared and asked for A LOT of cards of that nature, or at least they did with lolis, I clearly remember that
 
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Also they shared and asked for A LOT of cards of that nature, or at least they did with lolis, I clearly remember that
I think the cards and scenes themselves were safe to share if they had a safe for work thumb or inside a 7z, the real problem was the resquests with a nsfw hentai attrached and the links sharing hentai instead of cards.
 
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Also they shared and asked for A LOT of cards of that nature, or at least they did with lolis, I clearly remember that
I think the cards and scenes themselves were safe to share if they had a safe for work thumb or inside a 7z, the real problem was the resquests with a nsfw hentai attrached and the links sharing hentai instead of cards.
I now understand the situation more accurately, and believe me, this isn't the first community where I've seen these types of "wars," resulting in total censorship, leaving people who had nothing to do with the matter without a space to express or share.

Personally, I'm not a content or card creator, and I probably won't even get close to it due to my lack of skill with details (or even face or body modeling or accessories, which is why I use others' work as guides more than anything, because in part the easy thing would be to "cut and paste" said feature—which I don't judge if there are those who do—because I like to learn).

It's unfortunate how the situation turned from a manageable problem into a tsunami of hate.

P.S.: It's not relevant here, but I have seen "loli nsfw"-type requests, but of course, I'm not going to compare it to what you're saying. Adding an explicit image is too uncomfortable, and the worst part is that that's the intention behind it.

Anyway, thank you very much for explaining, and sorry if I'm writing too much. This topic has been bothering me for a while, partly because my colleague basically "went into hibernation only to wake up in spring to find a barren, dry desert."

Thanks.
 
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I now understand the situation more accurately, and believe me, this isn't the first community where I've seen these types of "wars," resulting in total censorship, leaving people who had nothing to do with the matter without a space to express or share.

Personally, I'm not a content or card creator, and I probably won't even get close to it due to my lack of skill with details (or even face or body modeling or accessories, which is why I use others' work as guides more than anything, because in part the easy thing would be to "cut and paste" said feature—which I don't judge if there are those who do—because I like to learn).

It's unfortunate how the situation turned from a manageable problem into a tsunami of hate.

P.S.: It's not relevant here, but I have seen "loli nsfw"-type requests, but of course, I'm not going to compare it to what you're saying. Adding an explicit image is too uncomfortable, and the worst part is that that's the intention behind it.

Anyway, thank you very much for explaining, and sorry if I'm writing too much. This topic has been bothering me for a while, partly because my colleague basically "went into hibernation only to wake up in spring to find a barren, dry desert."

Thanks.
No worries, and don't hesitate to bring your buddy here, we may be less than we used to and it may not feel the same, but at least there's a bunch of us from that thread who are still around. He's more than welcome to come back!
 
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I now understand the situation more accurately, and believe me, this isn't the first community where I've seen these types of "wars," resulting in total censorship, leaving people who had nothing to do with the matter without a space to express or share.

Personally, I'm not a content or card creator, and I probably won't even get close to it due to my lack of skill with details (or even face or body modeling or accessories, which is why I use others' work as guides more than anything, because in part the easy thing would be to "cut and paste" said feature—which I don't judge if there are those who do—because I like to learn).

It's unfortunate how the situation turned from a manageable problem into a tsunami of hate.

P.S.: It's not relevant here, but I have seen "loli nsfw"-type requests, but of course, I'm not going to compare it to what you're saying. Adding an explicit image is too uncomfortable, and the worst part is that that's the intention behind it.

Anyway, thank you very much for explaining, and sorry if I'm writing too much. This topic has been bothering me for a while, partly because my colleague basically "went into hibernation only to wake up in spring to find a barren, dry desert."

Thanks.
Don't worry about that, after all, we're in an off-topic thread, this kind of conversation is only a problem if it happens in the main thread, so it's fine to talk about anything here. There's also no issue with the length of the text here, the main appeal of a forum is that we can express ourselves freely without worrying about digit limits or speed, unlike other social media like Discord, because those who don't need the post can easily skip it, as long as we keep a cohesive read, a walltext is fine if needed...

And talking about walltexts, if you want to understand a little about the ending of the old leaker side of the war, you should read this post here. Don't take his post as absolute truth, he's just sharing his point of view, but it's still a good post about his experience. Now we know that Isekai as a site is gone now, but they as a group still maintain the scene archive and continue to host some torrents, so they aren't entirely gone...

I´m sorry
 
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Don't worry about that, after all, we're in an off-topic thread, this kind of conversation is only a problem if it happens in the main thread, so it's fine to talk about anything here. There's also no issue with the length of the text here, the main appeal of a forum is that we can express ourselves freely without worrying about digit limits or speed, unlike other social media like Discord, because those who don't need the post can easily skip it, as long as we keep a cohesive read, a walltext is fine if needed...

And talking about walltexts, if you want to understand a little about the ending of the old leaker side of the war, you should read this post here. Don't take his post as absolute truth, he's just sharing his point of view, but it's still a good post about his experience. Now we know that Isekai as a site is gone now, but they as a group still maintain the scene archive and continue to host some torrents, so they aren't entirely gone...

About this Anni93 guy, he believed in the potential of Emotion Creators more than anyone else, and I can´t blame him, when it released if you compared it with vanilla koikatsu at the time, you would have seen it as a absolute upgrade in all the right directions, but if you go to koikatsu bepis right now, and check Game Type: Emotion Creators, you will see a sad and pitiful page, because while he and a few others tried for years to hype the game, trying to get more people to build a diamond mine, they were unlucky from the very beginning, because at that time, the Koikatsu community was already producing consistent gems, and upgrading itself so fast that EC community could never catch up, especially because Koikatsu got a DLC soon after EC release, so it seems that not even ILLGAMES believed in its future. And what happened next was that they remained closer to vanilla koikatsu than modded koikatsu for the last 3 years until KKSunshine was released and EC hope of catching up was shattered in a instant, followed by a slow silent death...

Oh well, I think Anni93 is just lonely, he is alone in a sunken ship, there has been a whole year without EC content besides him on Bepis, his favorite hobby was abandoned by everyone, and that would have been fine, if it weren’t for Koikatsu not being just a tool, but also a kind of cooperative game, where you share and trade cards with your friends, and while the basic of Koikatsu cards can be kind of transferred to EC and vice versa, shaders and mods aren’t that easy to transfer, not to mention the missing plugins. And you're probably asking why he doesn´t just switch to normal koikastu like everyone else, it´s because dealing with sudden changes is difficult for autists especially in comfort zones like hobbies, and being constantly reminded of being left behind every time he tries to rebuild a card on EC that caught his interest made him a very bitter and unpleasant person, infamous in the community, because he harassed some artists, snitched on some leakers, and betrayed the trust of traders, he can't seem to decide where to stand and now no one wants to stand close to him, a lolcow if you know.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't comment on topics you have no clue about, as I've been in this community long before even Koikatsu existed. You're only one-third right about why I'm in Emotion Creators. The other two-thirds are reasons like: repeated theft and selling of my creations (someone even sold them now), and finally, the fact that the community, instead of supporting me like other creators in similar situations, retaliated with toxic behavior towards me. As for Emotion Creators and the community, you know nothing about it either. You probably don't even know that it has a timeline plugin or that the game is constantly receiving new plugins. So don't talk negatively about me when you know nothing about me.
because you make me look like a toxic person when people are toxic to me.

Ask the admin which section he had to delete here, when muusubi created here to mock/troll me. This is the same person who gave me a permanent ban on isekaiexpress by sending me a mocking meme about me stopping creating in Koikatsu.

Btw
You're taking the fact that I posted a marked Suou card out of context. Why don't you emphasize that I've endured toxic behavior towards myself for years because I defended myself against being robbed? Are you surprised that I once acted like an asshole? When people have been treating me the same way for x years? OKAY..

even now in the publications section on page 717, I replied to a random person who is toxic towards me while I was talking to you there, and I wanted to move my work to koikatsu for you and a few other people.
Thanks dude...

I know who not to trust anymore, it's a pity that a few days ago you didn't mention what you wrote about me here. Fake dude... Snake...
 
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I'd appreciate it if you didn't comment on topics you have no clue about, as I've been in this community long before even Koikatsu existed. You're only one-third right about why I'm in Emotion Creators. The other two-thirds are reasons like: repeated theft and selling of my creations (someone even sold them now), and finally, the fact that the community, instead of supporting me like other creators in similar situations, retaliated with toxic behavior towards me. As for Emotion Creators and the community, you know nothing about it either. You probably don't even know that it has a timeline plugin or that the game is constantly receiving new plugins. So don't talk negatively about me when you know nothing about me.
because you make me look like a toxic person when people are toxic to me.

Ask the admin which section he had to delete here, when muusubi created here to mock/troll me. This is the same person who gave me a permanent ban on isekaiexpress by sending me a mocking meme about me stopping creating in Koikatsu.

Btw
You're taking the fact that I posted a marked Suou card out of context. Why don't you emphasize that I've endured toxic behavior towards myself for years because I defended myself against being robbed? Are you surprised that I once acted like an asshole? When people have been treating me the same way for x years? OKAY..

even now in the publications section on page 717, I replied to a random person who is toxic towards me while I was talking to you there, and I wanted to move my work to koikatsu for you and a few other people.
Thanks dude...
You´re right, after actually talking with you and seeing your work with your cards and seeing how organized your EC mods folders are, I realize you´re actually just normal guy that is very passionate about his work, and I realize my mistake now.
People on the internet see only one side of someone and assume they can fully understand that person, I was one of them, I used to laugh with them about you, but I see now that you didn’t deserve any of that.
I was only parroting the stuff that was said by others, but I also have to take responsibility for my own words about you, and I know my words are going to be worthless and this is too late now, but I truly apologize for my very disgusting words about you.

Edit: About moving stuff from EC to KK, EC is only 20GB, I’m sure if people really want something, they’ll put in the effort. Also, tomo110105 found a way to use coordinates to reduce the bugs that occur when transferring outfits from EC to KK, which will save people a lot of time.

Also, I never thought about approaching you directly, which is why I asked publicly on the thread instead of DMing you, because I was aware that my actions toward you were shameful, and that if I did that, it would be not only even more disgusting, but because approaching people that I had spoken ill about before to ask for favors would be truly unforgivable, and in the end, I kinda did it anyway.
 
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You´re right, after actually talking with you and seeing your work with your cards and seeing how organized your EC mods folders are, I realize you´re actually just normal guy that is very passionate about his work, and I realize my mistake now.
People on the internet see only one side of someone and assume they can fully understand that person, I was one of them, I used to laugh with them about you, but I see now that you didn’t deserve any of that.
I was only parroting the stuff that was said by others, but I also have to take responsibility for my own words about you, and I know my words are going to be worthless and this is too late now, but I truly apologize for my very disgusting words about you.

Edit: About moving stuff from EC to KK, EC is only 20GB, I’m sure if people really want something, they’ll put in the effort. Also, tomo110105 found a way to use coordinates to reduce the bugs that occur when transferring outfits from EC to KK, which will save people a lot of time.

Also, I never thought about approaching you directly, which is why I asked publicly on the thread instead of DMing you, because I was aware that my actions toward you were shameful, and that if I did that, it would be not only even more disgusting, but because approaching people that I had spoken ill about before to ask for favors would be truly unforgivable, and in the end, I kinda did it anyway.
I honestly don't care what you think about my cards or what I do, and even if someone does something with them.

I'm simply tired of how people tarnished my reputation, when I was the victim from the very beginning.

I no longer feel even a milligram of empathy for the koikatsu community, let alone trust. You see, what I most dislike is duplicity. Because I couldn't even count on my mother and father in my life, where as a young child, I spent my childhood in an orphanage where a nun tortured the children.
 
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I honestly don't care what you think about my cards or what I do, and even if someone does something with them.

I'm simply tired of how people tarnished my reputation, when I was the victim from the very beginning.

I no longer feel even a milligram of empathy for the koikatsu community, let alone trust. You see, what I most dislike is duplicity. Because I couldn't even count on my mother and father in my life, where as a young child, I spent my childhood in an orphanage where a nun tortured the children.
Damn, this is too profound and depressing, and I'm just a simple laborer in Latin America, which is already a heavy punishment considering the miserable wages ($4/hour) and the lack of basic services. 🚬🚬🚬

I understand your situation, although I'm speaking more from an emotional perspective. I have no idea about the background of your conversation... or why it ended up here, but I'm not going to ask for details or explanations.

I will respect your stance regarding the community, even though I haven't been here very long. 🫂🫂🫂
 
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I honestly don't care what you think about my cards or what I do, and even if someone does something with them.

I'm simply tired of how people tarnished my reputation, when I was the victim from the very beginning.

I no longer feel even a milligram of empathy for the koikatsu community, let alone trust. You see, what I most dislike is duplicity. Because I couldn't even count on my mother and father in my life, where as a young child, I spent my childhood in an orphanage where a nun tortured the children.
I wasn´t aware of this hate thread you guys were fighting in, at the time, I was mostly just lurking Isekai and VK. Now this place is pretty much the only one left, so I’ve been trying to be a bit more useful this time for once.
I didn´t even check your profile or backstory like I did with Playing. Honestly, besides you talking to me this week, the last time I saw you was that Suou card incident and before that it was on IsekaiDevil post, which just gave me a immediately bad first impression of you, so yeah.
I though I also had to share the post and I also give my own assumptions on own things gone down, I don´t think I lied about EC, besides you and two others on Pixiv, it´s really empty, but I do regret that last text about you, it was not true.
I truly support you stopping all card distribution forever, most people haven´t treated you with not even with the minimun of respect, me included with that post, so there's really no need to give anyone gifts like your cards anymore. Goodbye
 
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